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dyaonna(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
yes you do
79743618(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
That's the splendor of the Latin Mass is that it truly focuses on Christ in the Eucharist. When you go to mass you actually feel like you are taking part in something sacred and Holy.
philorlo(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
nothing else is the latin mass. Novus ordo is the "giving up" of the one true faith and the starting of another belief. Just as Hank8 proclaimed himself as head of the church of england, and surrendered his roman catholic heritage (and lost the faith for an entire country) so too have the followers of novordo lost the faith for themselves and their children.
spitzer72(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Defending Vatican II ideas is defending ideas wich have been condemned by the Magisterium and the precedent Councils. It is defendig modernism against orthodoxy. And we all know that heterodoxy leads people directly to commit heresies.
spitzer72(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
So you should probably think more because it is not only a matter of "splendor" but a matter of faith.The Mass of all days is beautyful because it is the perfect expression of the faith.
79743618(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I agree completely VAtican II was a huge moment in church history and brought in many good things including the new mass. I think what the church need to do is just kind of pause and find away to merge both the old and the new. But here in Milwaukee I have seen many people who wish to bring back the Latin Mass but most priests refuse to say it.
ronsimeone(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
@79743618 you have a valid point.... many may disagree with you but the point is well taken. The explanation I had regarding Vatican II was that it would open up new dialogue and have involvement by the laity. The problem has been with interpretation and those who had a voice in the interpretation. Today, I see the product of Vatican II; a declining clergy, schools and churches closing, our children who do not know basic cathechism, and bishops who are CEOs in clerical attire.
79743618(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I think that everyone was so eeger to change that we didn't stop and think about the beauty and splendor we were getting rid of with the Latin Mass. I think if we would have kept thr LAtin Mass we would not have the problem in the church we have today.
timmycphilly(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I am a firm Vatican II child, but I am so glad they have started to perform Latin Mass here in Philadelphia. I have a lot to learn, but I have volunteered to be an Altar Sever. So far many people seem to be interested in celebrating in the old way. I hope it be comes more common place with time.
loudsquid(November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Nobody ever told me about this beautiful rite. Every parish should have a Tridentine Mass. |